post about abortion or not....

[ThePopeVI]

If there is one thing that I am tired of hearing about on here thats it!  I dont know how a post about a mom asking a simple question totally unrealated to abortion turns into a HUGE debate over abortion.  How it is Wrong Blah blah blah......  Okay lets think here have you ever come across a TRUE PRO-Abortion person?  I mean really someone who thinks that everyone SHOULD have an abortion?  I didnt think so.  But the Pro-lifers (and these vary on thier stance) but the real true Pro-lifers bug the $+!+ out of me!  not the ones who just think that abortion is wrong because of whatever reason, but the ones who think that ANY and ALL termination of pregnancy is wrong.  Okay people think,  there are medical neccesitated terminations.  but some people seem to think that those are just as bad, PLEASE!! just because a woman may have a problem with one pregnancy doesnt mean it will happen again and why should she have to die because the first one didnt work out?  (for those of you who think that god controls it, well maybe (s)he should have finished the job. (s)he is VERY busy and cannot control every single thing that happens in every single persons life!)  Now I am pretty much a pro life person PERSONALLY I could not do it. BUT  I know of certain situations that I MAY consider it (having mulled these over in my head I know I wouldnt, except maybe rape)  Since I am married I dont know If I could bring a child into the world that wasnt his and was from such horrible circumstances,  NOW yes there is Adoption for that......But really with 4 other kids could I handle the pregnancy?  I dont really know and I wouldnt know unless I was in that situation!  And HOPEFULLY I never will have to.  Now this is a topic that my DH and I are split on!  He thinks that it should NEVER be used as BC (I totally agree) but when it comes to the rights of the Father.... This is where we really split,  okay I think that the dads have just as much right to a say as moms (because I know some dads that would step up and do whats right) but there are others.... Abusers, drug users, and just general bad guys that should never be dads, now I know that this is a minority but it does happen.  Now in the instance of Rape there really is no reason to have to go through with an abortion (HELLO RAPE KIT it has the morning after pill, agian though the "Real" hard core pro-lifers think that this is equal to abortion)  I guess what I am really getting at is that with other topics there is a true balance, and Dark and Light if you will.  But it is not so with abortion.  There is pro-life (which has its different degrees) and Pro-choice (agian different degrees) because everyone has a different stance on what is "okay" or "acceptable"  And maybe its just me today noticing that the same "group" of people post the same thing over and over  so quick to judge....Like when I went into Planned Parenthood when I was 15 and the protestors HAD to say "I cant belive you are letting you daughter commit murder"  My dad confronted them about that LOL  I was in to get an annual exam and the pill (I liked female drs and Its a quick place to go where you can guarantee that you get one!)  OH NO ANOTHER HOT TOPIC premaitial sex!  thats another post!  I dont know why I just really felt a need to post this after today.  I am just so tired of the abortion debate.  Because if it is made illegal (totally illeagal) then we have alot more fatalities among women, and I think that is much more degrading.  And Seriously havent people watched "If these walls could talk"?  Doesnt that PROVE that women will go to desperate measures if they have no other option?  Oh yeah,  and what is with the bombing of abortion clinics?  the drs do abortions so they should die,  okay I kinda get that logic but......lets bomb the clinic so the mom, baby, dr, nurse, and all the other people in there getting help (you know like the mom who is going in for adoption referances) ALL DIE!!  Does that seriously make any sense?  (and yes I know that the bombers are the exterme extremists and it doesnt happen that often but once is enough)

Like I said I needed a rant!  I dont know what it is today I just had to post this and I may regret it as soon as it is posted,  but I just have to get this off my chest (and see how many people "just have to let me know what they think"  Today I dont care!  I just felt like opening a "place" for a hot topic I guess! 

To Clarify:  Partial-birth abotion is just plain wrong,  If the baby is able to live outside the womb then it IS murder,  Abortion is not a form of birth control, if your just to lazy to use condoms or the pill then deal with the consequenses.  And know the "adoption option" too many people forget this one! 

Okay so yes I have some "weird" stances on this topic because I think it needs to remain legal just nees "reform" (a word that I am not to fond of because it often turns to "deform" like welfare "reform") 

I am just going to post this now because I am starting to ramble, too many interuptions (getting kids in bed etc) and I am losing my train of thought!  OH well here goes!

[Vyolttears]

Apr. 4, 2007 at 10:48 PM You have beautiful children and a lot on your mind.  Ask your self one question.  Would you be able to forgive yourself if one of your children was not with you because you willingly aborted it?  Forget everything else.  All arguments and circumstances, and just look into their eyes and answer your question?  Vy 

[donnaboo04]

Apr. 5, 2007 at 1:13 PM i have to agree but disagree, Im againist it total myself and think well actually I believe in a total different god myself but if we were supposed to kill the miricales we are given then God would have given us that but God didnt. I believe that in in problem rape or not that we should give others who cant even have children or have one and cant have anymore the chance to love such a sweet person.

[doubthetroub]

Apr. 7, 2007 at 9:36 PM Wow! I didn't know there was another mom like me out there. I completely agree with you on the case of abortions. There are some circumstances that require an abortion. And there are those that the mother is better off having an abortion or putting it up for adoption b/c she is not suited to be a mother in anyway. But then there are those that just use abortion as a way out. I'll admit I had thought about it when I got pregnant with my first child but then I came to my senses and realized that this baby I was carrying was worth more than the world. I never told his father (my husband of almost a year) until recently about that and he said he never would have let me do it. Which I feel is real important b/c even if I hadn't wanted my son his father would have. Which, you know, that is really important in the case of abortion too. The parents should agree to it before a mother decides to go and have that done. If they can't agree on it then I say let the one who wants the baby have it and the other can go his/her merry own way.

[MomOfRayne]

Apr. 19, 2007 at 9:40 AM See, I personally would never do an abortion, nor would I do adoption, but I do beleive that abortion should stay legal for many reasons. I had a friend who had 2 abortions for very good reason in her opinion and I can't disagree with her. When she was 16 she and her boyfriend were on ALOT of drugs and one night they were really high with and bunch of his friends. She was gang raped and became pregnant. She went for the abortion because when she seriously and very sober thought about it she knew that child life wouldn't be fair. She wouldn't be able to care for it and also the child would hae had problems and it wouldn't be right to give a deformed child up for adoption. I think she did that in the best interest of the child. The second one was because her uncle raped her (he is now in jail) and she felt that child may have problems to because of the same blood or jeans mixing. But now she has two beautiful baby girls with a third on its way. I think that under certain circumstances abortion is not as horrible as people make it seem as long as it is used for the correct reasons. Sorry for such a long story.

[twin_mommy]

Apr. 20, 2007 at 3:04 PM

I think that all of the comments and opinions are valid and thank God we live in America where we can freely express them.  I personally am Pro-Choice.  I feel that the majority of women who resort to this have good reasons for doing so.  I honestly don't think that we should make a woman carry a baby that she doesn't want.  Pre-natal care is very important and if a woman doesn't respect herself and her child then she will more likely than not put herself in situations and places not condusive to a health pregnancy.  Is it fair to a child to be born with multiple birth defects and into a family that doens't want them.  I don't think so.

I want to end this by saying I PERSONALLY would never resort to an abortion, not because of religious or social implications or policies, but because I love and cherish my children. 

[tlc576]

Apr. 25, 2007 at 11:49 AM Wow. this is exactly how I feel about abortion. I believe there is a time and place and that girls who keep going back cuz they keep getting knocked up are stupid. you can get much cheaper contraceptives then paying for an abortion each time. partial birth abortions are just wrong. But people who medically need one, or were raped and either had the morning after pill not work or were too scared to go get seen should be allowed. I dont know if I could ever have one, even if raped, but I dont think I would want the child growing up with that stigma.

[doubletree]

Jun. 5, 2007 at 11:17 AM Abortion has always been a big debate. I have struggle with the ideal of aborting a preg. before. I is not always cut and dry. I have met people who had an abortion some 20yrs. ago and still speak on it like it was just yesterday. I have also known people who have had several abortion and would be in line to get another if they felt the need. So I guess , lilke with everything ,it depends on  the person. Some people don't have the consicous ? (spelling) for it.  Decisions like that are never easy for most people. Either decision is permanent and in some cases not easy to make.

[nechia21]

Jun. 14, 2007 at 9:42 PM abortions are always a touchy situation i dont agree with abortion as a means of birth control bt i do understand that there situation where u just dont have a choice, but i agree with completly

[heartnhidin]

Nov. 8, 2007 at 3:48 AM Abortion is a touchy subject personally I would never get one I couldn't deal with the fact that I killed something inside of me. Think of it at 5 weeks the embryo already has heart cells that form and by six weeks a heart beat. I had a friend who was raped by her step father and had twin boys and gave them up for adoption. I have had a couple of friends get abortions I don't dislike them for it but there are better choices out there. I agree with certain situations like a medical illness in the baby that they know it will die at birth. But besides that there are so many couples out there that just can not get pregnant and would love a baby no matter if it was theirs or not.

[Mountainmom1994]

May. 6, 2008 at 7:04 AM

I am prolife - but I do realize it's not always a cut and dry situation. What I think we need is alot more education and couselling prior to the abortion. I know that some women would still opt to have the abortion, but it would stop some. What alot of people don't realize is how devastating it can be to have an abortion and how some women never get over it. Sure, your immediate problem is solved, but it's something you have to live with for the rest of your life.

I'm not sure if this has changed or not, but in Pennsylvania where I live, it's actually the doctors who are going to perform the abortion who are supposed to do the preabortion counselling. Are they really going to try and talk women out of it? Plus, how many doctors really take the time to talk much to their patients, especially when the waiting room is full? It's a huge money making business - so I don't think you can really trust what they tell you.