Who's influencing who? Is it brainwashing by men...Or do we do it to ourselves?

[ZsMommy]

So this is gonna be one of those rambling journals with a hint of controversity...not meant to offend-but merely a roundtable topic...

The topics...

Boob jobs and bi-sexuality.

The question...

Are we being manipulated by men into acceptance and almost an "in fashion" type sense of the topics...Or have we done this to ourselves as women-thinking we have artistic license "so to say" on the topics.

Think about it...

When it comes to boob jobs we've all been inundated with the images of boobs that are not affected by gravity...we start to look at models and actresses...even friends or co-workers and question if we who are endowed naturally ( find the "natural" breast appears strange...not perfectly round,taught and lifted.) just appear as "not attractive" these days.

(Believe me I'm between a D and a DD depending on which mfg's bra...I'm not feeling I am "lacking" in this area)

But even given the fact my cup runneth over...And my boobs don't need to go in for an overhaul ever 10 years-I still admit-Ya look in the mirror and start to think "natural"= "floppy" compared to the "molded and shaped"...

Now on the topic of bisexuality...If that's your thing-no biggs-so be it-I'm not slicing and dicing here...

But "when" did it suddenly become "fashionable" to grope up your girlfriend? Seriously...It's like the "straight" female is a "dying breed"...

We see it on TV...magazines...movies...everywhere...It's suddenly seems like men almost "expect"... like a pre-requisite that females enjoy females.

I just don't get it-Is this manipulation by men...Or have we now self doubted ourselves...Doubted to the point that many feel the need to "fit in" with perceived expectations.

I just can't seem to get an answer as to when society started to almost "force" a lifestyle.Asking all friends who embrace all views...But I'm still sorta confused.LOL...

For those curious...I'm a naturally endowed,heterosexual,non-bi curious,outspoken female who's husband doesn't need a wife with under-the-knife boobs or with "variety"...I simply like to discuss topics that many often keep in PM conversations.

If you (reading this) have gone under the knife or prefer to swing both ways-more power to ya...That makes you "you"-no judgement passed. Least not by me.

But if either of these topics do apply..did you choose your own path...felt manipulated...self doubted...or feel confident that this is you as a woman.

So there ya have it..My so called contoversial post of the day...

Be nice to each other in response-please. I'm just looking to hear various points of view. Thanks.

Tags: controversity, pov, manipulation by men, boob jobs, bisexuality

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[Mom2PunkRockers]

Feb. 23, 2009 at 12:05 PM

Well my cups runneth over too I am a natural DD. I have also been Bi since high school so I am not jumping on any bandwagons there either. I think part of why it now seems popular to "Grope your girlfriend " is because more and more people are becoming accepting of same sex and different sexual relationships , so they are being more up front about it rather than keeping it hidden. I also think more younger people are less afraid to experiment with bi sexuality because it is becoming something that is more accepted. As for boob jobs, pah, if he dont like you the way you are , you need a new man , not new tits.

[mutts914]

Feb. 23, 2009 at 11:14 PM

lol! @ " you need a new man, not new tits!" truer words have never been spoken.  i am extremely small chested, but while i'd like to have a "normal size" i am not always gah gaahh over the fake boobies.

as for bisexuality, i think it is pounded into us by the media that women are attractive and that we should all be attracted to women. it's kinda weird. i think people should be accepted as they are,(gay, straight, bi.... fake -real.... whatever makes you happy) but i think there may be a little brainwashing going on. that's just me.

[thingz123]

Feb. 26, 2009 at 9:42 PM

Men sure do seem perpetually happy with the prospect of girl on girl action, don't they? I'm not sure where the "push" to be bi or a lesbian is coming from. I see high school girls groping each other and trying to get some. It's fun working w/a bunch of oversexed teens in general. I don't know if anyone is pushing the girls to "explore", but it does seem to be the new fad.

[mom2simon]

Mar. 4, 2009 at 12:32 PM

My thoughts on the subject(s) are similar to the ones already stated.  I think it is a lot of things combined: the media is pumping our heads full of what "Hollywood" thinks is beautiful and not really what "normal" people think is beautiful, regardless of breast size, real or fake which in turn is influencing what some men want to see in their own women.  There are lots of reasons to get fake tits and the women that get them because of someone else, are only fooling themselves.  Personal choice, do it for you and be proud of the decision.

As for bisexuality, we live in an ever-changing society.  The media teaches us variety; we can get anything we want, literally anything we want.  The world is our playground and we can do what we want with it.  Including sexual partners.  There are a lot of people who think bisexuals are selfish because they want it all!  That makes me giggle a little because it might be true with some bisexuals... others, they are searching for love regardless of their genitalia.  I also think that it's coming from the media because it's so much more accepted nowadays so they want to talk about it; it's almost voyeuristic in a sense that "non bisexuals" are curious about the goings-on of bisexuals so there is an intrigue through the media in order to satisfy their curiosities.  I think it's more complicated than calling it a fad; I believe that there are all kinds of reasons why women ... (side note: you don't hear of men being bisexual... upon hearing the word bisexual, one automatically thinks it's a woman; there aren't many bisexual men out there unless they are truly gay and are just playing around for a threesome) ... all kinds of reasons why women are bisexual.  It's sad really that the media has created a stigma about it being "popular" because yes, there are some kids that are experimenting because it's "popular" but there's far deeper aspects to it when talking about an adult whose already experienced a lot and who is searching for true love.

Everyone has their own life, that's what makes America so diverse and so beautiful.

[Anouck]

Mar. 4, 2009 at 12:44 PM

Well... Even though every now and then I wonder what it would be like to go braless and still have my boobs be all perky, I know I'm never actually going to ACT on that. Because frankly, I think they look kind of freakish, especially if somebody gets them way too big for their frame. I know men seem to love them though, so yeah, I think they somewhat influenced that fad.

Now, for bi-sexuality, I definitely have a major issue with all these young girls claiming they're bi. I think 90% of them DO decide to act that way because men like it. True bisexual women (or men) are attracted to both men AND women, and can be in relationships with either. But these "fad" bisexual women all seem to be in relationships with men, and have sex with women on the side. Sorry, that's not being bisexual, that's just being a hussy. Having multiple partners of both sexes doesn't make you bisexual, it makes you a whore.

Don't get me wrong, I have no issues with bisexual people, gay people, whatever. But having sex with random women because it turns your boyfriend on does NOT make a woman bisexual.