Why do the good people let good people get pushed around???

[giftofgiving]

We all heard the saying, "The squeaky wheel gets the oil" - Why is that? Why do we let things get bad, before we tend to them? And, in most cases - that wheel stays squeaky. Analytically speaking.

What am I getting at?

Well, Last June my husband got laid off due to the company he worked for went out of business and since I was 4 months pregnant - I was not able to apply for work. No employer wants to hire someone who is high risk for medical issues and up for time off. So, we didn't have much money to begin with since we had other financial issues happen (I had got sick and had to have surgery and also had dealt with other medical issues and had to be temporarily hospitalized. )

Well, this lead us to be homeless and we moved to Florida to take a job offer that after we got there and put the last of our money into, fell through. Apparently the issues with the economy affected that. What does this have to do with my topic?

We are not the kind of people who look or live like trash and I have a decent car I have taken care of and am almost done paying off. When all this started, we would go to a place that would feed you for free. It served lunch and dinner to those in need. We did that so we could use our money to pay bills. Well, we kept getting pushed around by the trashy people and even disrespected and we were told that if we stood up for ourselves we would be asked to leave and never come back. These "CHURCH" people didn't want us to start trouble. US!! All we did was go in, keep quiet, eat, clean up after ourselves and leave. But, they would pick on us, saying WE didn't belong!! And, some of the men would hoot and holler at me saying I was HOT and disrespecting my husband. Keep in mind, I was 4 months pregnant and I didn't fix myself up. We stopped going because this place said they don't want to refuse service to the needy and we look like we can take care of ourselves - so they wouldn't stop them for harassing us. WHAT!!!!

Then, in Florida we stayed at a homeless shelter for families. It was horrible the way some of those people behaved and disgusting! They would actually smear poop all over the toilets, pee on the seats, not flush and leave a total mess all over. They would push their way around and their kids would be cussing and being disrespectful and if charity came by to give to our kids toys and stuff, many of them would push their way to the front saying their kids deserved first pick and sometimes cause the charity people to shut down the line and leave. Leaving the patient people with nothing at the end of the line and the ones who caused the line to get shut down got the toys. In the end, my husband and I were forced out due to they said the other families were in need and we seem like we can take care of ourselves. But, many of those families have been there longer than a year!!!!

We had many of them ask US for money and rides in our car and told us we weren't homeless as we didn't look that way!! WHAT!!?? So, we shower, brush our teeth and wear clean underwear - so this must mean we aren't in need?? BTW - I have an 8 year old child too.

I left out so much details - but things were really bad - and yet those trashy, rude, disrespectful jerks were getting all kinds of help - because, as the shelters and these places would state, "THEY needed the help!"

So, if your a good person, only taking what you need and helping out while you are there - you DONT NEED the help and need to leave! I am only posting this as this concerns me with all these good people getting laid off and now needing help. Are they going to be turned away??

limited income people don't pay taxes, they get it back and then some more at the end of the year - also if they claim a high number on their W2's like 10 dependants during the year, they don't pay any taxes; at the end of the year they get any claims they are allowed - their return is smaller since they didn't pay through the year, so there was nothing to return to them there, except they still get things like EIC - so they still get a check.

I am a limited income person and have been most of the time. So, I know this - but - I think it is unfair to think of those people who made good money and now lost everything - they DID PAY taxes with NO return but instead OWED more at the end of the year. And, those of US who got things like medicaid etc... will treat those people like that! That is awful.

Why do these charities allow this to happen to any good person - poor or not! Why does America let the horrible people push their way around. And, please don't say - well the government is full of bad people. I just think that is a sad way to take the attention off of those of you who are pushing the good people around! Stick to the question - don't beat around it.

So, people who paid taxes so those other people can get EIC etc... are going to be spit on when they go for help? I am a limited income person who is discusted at the thought. I want to take this moment to thank everyone who has made good money and the rich for all the money you forked into taxes to make EIC, Medicaid, foodstamps etc.. possible ! I am a firm believer of people helping people - but, can't get it out of my mind how people can treat others when they are the ones asking!

My husband was paying a lot into taxes as a single man the 5 years we were together and he paid at the end of the year too! We only got married back in May. I know what people pay and we took from my EIC to pay his taxes back.

Why do the good people let good people get pushed around???

[amithyst2384]

Feb. 27, 2009 at 7:59 PM

you have a valid point. so many people just live off the welfare system, & take advantage of programs like the free food you spoke of. that is not the point, the point should be that those programs are available if you should need them, but only to help you get back on your feet. i was food stamps for awhile right after my divorce but i went to school, got a decent job, and no longer qualify and that is fine with me! i would RATHER buy my own groceries, but that program was there for me when i needed it and i am grateful.

[kyfiregirl]

Feb. 27, 2009 at 11:53 PM

I agree, my husband had to take off work for a few weeks while i was in the hospital and his checks were to short to pay the electric and rent and we tried to get assistance and they went by his lat months pay and refused to help us, well hello what he made last month wasnt helping us this month but they only told us that there were other people that needed the help that didnt have too much pay or any pay the previous month. so because we had one bad month and needed help one time instead of all the time ,every single month that makes us crappy people for asking the one time! My dad had to cover our rent and they actually shut off our electric. I had to beg family to help when they really didnt have it because we didnt deser the help from the comunity. I donated to their organization for years and when i needed the help they could care less. Because we made decent money once and could help someone else one we didnt need the help. The one group here actually kicked me out of the group and easter basket thing because i was helping other mons when i could(costing no money frrom myself at all) so I obviously didnt need the help myslef! So the good people that actually tell the truth and try to help others and try to supprot themsleves get treated like crap! I hope you find the help you need. I agree it isnt fair at all!

[singlemomw3]

Jan. 28, 2010 at 1:13 PM

I agree with all of you the only reason they help people is because they lie.  Those of us that are used to working and paying our own way and helping others when we can aren't used to lying, people that live off welfare are used to lying as a matter a fact that's probably what their parents did when they where kids so they get all the benefits.  On the other hand when you are really in need for a period or time you can't get it because you've worked your whole life I don't get it either.  I had an experience when I separated my husband.  I only had my two oldest at the time and the organizations and supposed charities wouln't help me out because I had been working yeah but I wasn't with by husband what I made wasn't enough at the time and two kidds to feed.  I don't get it if I would've lied and said no I'm not working they maybe someone might have helped.  It's worse when you're single mom.