Aviv Means more than just "Ripe Barley"! It's about Time.

[EileenMomGranny]

I began following the Rabbinic Jewish calendar a few months ago.
Keeping Shabbat and Mo'adim. (God's appointed times)
And then somebody told me the Rabbinic calendar was not Torah.

Really "threw me for a loop".
Have I been doing it wrong??!  instead of God's Way??!

well...
after praying about it,
AND getting an immediate and VERY clear emphatic answer,
(but I still didn't understand HOW or WHY...)
so I just continued on in choas and confusion...(which should have been a major tip-off to me)

On with my studies and research in general...
preparing to teach lessons... my own homework...

And I tried several different kinds of ways and times to contact this other sect of Judaism that has this alternate method of keeping the calendar to get more information...
well, that didn't work.
Discussion was NOT an option.
And there were no answers.

So today I resolved to moved on
To just trust God on this one.

And then God brought me this information today!
Thank You Yeshua!

"Ask and it will be given to you;
seek and you will find;
knock and the door will be opened to you.
 ~ Matthew 7:7 NIV

Here I am!
I stand at the door and knock.
If anyone hears my voice and opens the door,
I will come in and eat with him, and he with me.
 ~ Revelation 3:20 NIV
Praise the Lord!!

the rest of this is various excerpts from an article. The link to the whole thing is at the bottom.

Aviv Does Not Mean Ripe Barley Alone!

From the knowledge of the Babylonian calendar with the use of these same month names in Yisrael, we can say that Nisan/Aviv 1 is just before, or after the vernal equinox. .... by the process of logical elimination of choices about the time of Ex 12:2 and within the parameters of Gen 1:14 involving the lights in the heavens, the vernal equinox is the only candidate for starting the year.

Does Aviv 1, or Just Passover Have to Fall After The Spring Equinox?

Aviv 1 can be determined by the New Moon closest to the Spring Equinox. It can fall before, or after the Spring Equinox. Passover being the spring feast must fall after the Spring Equinox and is known as Tekufat Nisan. Tehillim/Psalm 104:19 states that the moon is for moadim, BUT the SUN KNOWS when to SET, or ITS SETTINGS as it relates to SETTING the 4 tekufot/SEASONS of the biblical year.

Ezra 6:15 and Nehemiah 6:15 tie in with Beresheet/Gen 1:14 to give the biblical and archaeological evidence that together show explicit evidence that Beresheet/Gen 1:14 involves the vernal equinox so that the first month begins on or after the vernal equinox. The Hebrew word TKUFAH can mean equinox, or solstice depending on context.
Philo of Alexandria explains Beresheet/Gen 1:14 and Shemot/Ex 12:2 [3]
without the use of barley,
and with the use of the vernal equinox.

Also, AVIV means SPRING, or SPRINGING FORTH, not just barley, as seen in such translations as Stone’s Edition, or even in Strong’s concordance.

The cycles of the planets and comets are much too irregular in comparison to repeatable phenomena on the earth to consider in relation to a biblical calendar when considering the lights in the heavens. The stars must be excluded because during every 1000 tropical years the time of the appearance of the stars slowly shifts about 14.1 days further into the tropical year thus losing touch with the earth's seasons; this is called precession of the equinoxes in books on astronomy. Only the sun and moon remain to be considered.
The moon determines the months, but not which month is the first. Only the sun remains to be considered. The only repeatable time points involving the sun are the two equinoxes and the two solstices. Considering that the barley and wheat in Yisrael are harvested in the spring, the vernal equinox is the only logical candidate to consider that involves the lights in the heavens on the direct basis on Gen 1:14.

Moses knew. Maaseh Shlichim/Acts 7:22 reads [NKJV], "And Moses was learned in all the wisdom of the Egyptians, and was mighty in words and deeds."
When one considers that Gen.1:14 points to the lights in the heavens to determine the festivals and knowing that only the vernal equinox is related to the time of the year under consideration, Moses would naturally think of the vernal equinox in relation to Ex 12:2. That would be Egyptian training, Egyptian thinking, Egyptian context, and in harmony with Beresheet/Gen 1:14, the only explicit Scripture that directly addresses the determination of the festivals. Would Moses think of the vernal equinox if it had not yet occurred by that day? No, it would be premature for him to think of it. The natural thinking from Ex 12:2 in the context of Egypt and what Moses knew would point to the vernal equinox as having occurred. Would Moses think it was necessary for him to explicitly mention the vernal equinox in the context of Gen 1:14? If this is the only choice there was, he need not think it was necessary. Moses HAD NO TRAINING IN BAREY HUNTING OR ITS DETECTION! THE TERM “THIS MONTH” WAS A MONTH BASED ON EGYPTIAN
UNDERSTANDING THAT HAD ALREADY BEGUN!

Testimony of Josephus

The Hebrew Calendar Was in Existence BEFORE Second Temple Observation and “Barley Hunts” Were Added!

 “As we have pointed out, this already-ancient calendar was the one in use in the land of his birth where Abraham grew up. Abraham left Ur to follow the one true King of the Universe into what came to be the promised land. When he did, he took his knowledge of the ancient lunar calendar with him.” Abraham was no unintelligent barbarian. The first century Jewish priest Flavius Josephus, being privy to the ancient records of Israel preserved into the first century by the priesthood at the Temple, confirms what an examination of the facts suggests. Josephus recounts that the patriarch Abraham when in Egypt taught the Egyptian astronomers accurate astronomy, the science on which time reckoning is based, as well as mathematics which he had learned when he resided in Sumeria-Babylonia (Antiquities: Book 1:8:2). He also notes that Moshe/Moses used this same reckoning of time known to Abraham, when he led the tribes of Israel out of Egypt. Josephus even states the amount of time that had elapsed from Adam to the Exodus as tracked through succeeding generations according to this very same reckoning of time! (Antiquities: Book. 1:3:3).

"Thus I cleansed them of everything foreign, and I had the cohanim and L'vi'im resume their duties, each one in his appointed task." Nehemiah 13:30 CJB

http://www.yourarmstoisrael.org/Articles_new/articles/?page=Aviv_Barley

Imagine that, God was right!
again.
always,
sigh...

If I'd only listened and trusted sooner.
I'd have saved myself a few days of confusion.

I still needed the facts to teach my students,
Thank You God for providing those!

NIV: New International Version Holy Bible
CJB: The Complete Jewish Bible

[letsgetreal]

May. 3, 2009 at 9:57 AM

Very refreshing.... your quest to find out the truth.

[MomaNana2008]

May. 3, 2009 at 8:13 PM

This is very interesting. New understanding ususally appears after a plateau of searching. I'm glad you finally were able to get the info you needed!////