WHY PRAY FOR THIS COUNTRY OR ANY OTHER COUNTRY?

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Why should one Pray for a Country?

 

Benjamin Franklin, certainly one of the least religious of the Founding Fathers and co-authors of the Declaration of Independence, reminded his fellow delegates at the Constitutional Convention of 1787 for the need prayer in and by our government bodies said it best.

"In the beginning of the contest with Great Britain, when we were sensible of danger, we had daily prayer in this room for the Divine protection. Our prayers, sir, were heard, and they were graciously answered. All of us who were engaged in the struggle must have observed frequent instances of a superintending Providence in our favor... And have we now forgotten that powerful Friend? Or do we imagine we no longer need His assistance? I have lived, sir, a long time, and the longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth-that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without His aid? We have been assured, sir, in the Sacred Writings, that "except the Lord build the House, they labor in vain that build it." I firmly believe this; and I also believe that without His concurring aid we shall succeed in this political building no better than the builders of Babel:... I therefore beg leave to move-that henceforth prayers imploring the assistance of Heaven, and its blessings on our deliberations, be held in this Assembly every morning before we proceed to business."

 

It is self evident that our founding fathers wanted prayer in our government. In fact to this day, because of the wishes of those that wrote the Declaration of Independence (the corner stone of government within The United States of America), we begin every session of congress with a prayer.

We must remember that our founding fathers wanted separation of state from church, not church form state. They wanted to prevent our government from forcing "one" religion on a government, as did King Henry VIII. However, they wanted religion in our government.

In fact, since the beginning of The United States of America, it was the intention of our great leaders to have religion in our government:

• In God We Trust, is in every coin
• The 10 Commandments is behind the Supreme Court Justices
• etc.

God and Governments

 

Psalm 106:23 Therefore he said that he would destroy them, had not Moses his chosen stood before him in the breach, to turn away his wrath, lest he should destroy them.

• Therefore he (God) said
• would destroy them (The Nation of Israel)
• had not Moses his chosen stood before him in the breach

Ezekiel 22:30 And I sought for a man among them, that should make up the hedge, and stand in the gap before me for the land, that I should not destroy it: but I found none

 

Therefore, it is self evident that God expects us to "stand in the gap" before him for the land (Nation). The only way we can do this is through our prayers!

Exodus 17:11 And it came to pass, when Moses held up his hand, that Israel prevailed: and when he let down his hand, Amalek prevailed.

• Moses held up his hand (Holding up one's hands means Praying).

12 But Moses hands were heavy; and they took a stone, and put it under him, and he sat thereon; and Aaron and Hur stayed up his hands, the one on the one side, and the other on the other side; and his hands were steady until the going down of the sun.

13 And Joshua discomfited Amalek and his people with the edge of the sword.

 

So, only while Moses prayed did he prevail. Therefore, it is essential that we pray, continually.

When Minister Joe  was asked to open the new session of the Kansas Senate, everyone was expecting the usual generalities, but this is what they heard:

 

"Heavenly Father, we come before you today to ask your forgiveness and to seek your direction and guidance. We know Your Word says, 'Woe to those who call evil good,' but that is exactly what we have done. We have lost our spiritual equilibrium and reversed our values. We confess that we have ridiculed the absolute truth of Your Word and called it Pluralism.

• We have exploited the poor and called it the lottery.
• We have rewarded laziness and called it welfare.
• We have killed our unborn and called it choice.
• We have shot abortionists and called it justifiable.
• We have neglected to discipline our children and called it building self-esteem.
• We have abused power and called it politics.
• We have coveted our neighbor's possessions and called it ambition.
• We have polluted the air with profanity and pornography and called it freedom of expression.
• We have ridiculed the time-honored values of our forefathers and called it enlightenment.

Search us, Oh, God, and know our hearts today; cleanse us from every sin and set us free.

Guide and bless these men and women who have been sent to direct us to the center of Your will and to openly ask these things in the name of Your Son, the living Savior, Jesus Christ.

Amen!"

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Jul. 8, 2009 at 8:22 PM

I have unblocked every one that I had blocked in the past a couple of weeks ago and I was willing to give everyone another chance at being decent. PLEASE do not make me sorry for trusting you to be an adult.

I am concerned for the welfare of my country, for my fellow country families, for my family and friends, my Grandchildren and all that are sharing this country with me; please do not come into my post with your anti-christian remarks. I will delete them.

I posted this post because of the concerns that I have. Kindly pass by and don't bother trying to spit or bite on your way through when you do not agree. I really have NO DESIRE to argue and I am not up for a debate on how you feel about Christianity, abortion, the USA being a Christian Nation...etc.; just go by and leave it alone if you do not like the post.

(Original Poster)

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Jul. 9, 2009 at 10:47 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfDZWMByAU0

 

Who cares if this person is USA  material or not! Who ever did this video id very disturbed and I hope they locate the sender and arrest him/ her/ or them.

OH; wait a minute....obama will have a peace talk with them. HA

(Original Poster)

[KristiS11384]

Jul. 9, 2009 at 10:59 PM

I would like to point out that "In God we Trust" did not appear on our paper money until the 1950's. A law passed by the 84th Congress (P.L. 84-140) and approved by the President on July 30, 1956, the President approved a Joint Resolution of the 84th Congress, declaring IN GOD WE TRUST the national motto of the United States. IN GOD WE TRUST was first used on paper money in 1957, when it appeared on the one-dollar silver certificate. The first paper currency bearing the motto entered circulation on October 1, 1957.

So I must disagree with you when you say it was the intent of our founding father's to have religion in our government. Nor was it their intent to have government in our religion.

[KristiS11384]

Jul. 9, 2009 at 11:00 PM

As for coins it was during the Civil War that "In God We Trust" first appeared. 1838 I believe was the first year it appeared and only on the one cent coins. Up until 1937 the words appeared intermittenly on coins depending on the coins worth.

[godsproperty07]

Jul. 10, 2009 at 3:15 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpQOCvthw-o

HONESTLY I USUALLY STAY AWAY FROM POST LIKE THIS BECAUSE THERE IS ALWAYS PEOPLE WHO WANT TO REWRITE HISTORY OR DENIE OUR FOR FARTHERS INTENTIONS.......BUT THE ABOVE LINK SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.........THERE IS NO DOUBT TO THOSE WHO SEEK TRUTH THAT THE INTENTIONS WERE TO HAVE GOD IN OUR LIVES, IN ALL PARTS OF OUR LIVES......BUT LIKE THE BIBLE SAYS THERE WILL BE THOSE WHO TURN AND THE ENEMY BLINDS THE UNBELIEVERS...............GODSPEED!!!

I ALSO FOUND THIS TO BE INTERESTING THE PREAMBLE FOR EACH STATE!!

Alabama 1901, Preamble
We the people of the State of Alabama , invoking the favor and guidance of Almighty God, do ordain and establish the following Constitution..
Alaska 1956, Preamble We, the people of Alaska , grateful to God and to those who founded our nation and pioneered this great land.
Arizona 1911, Preamble We, the people of the State of Arizona , grateful to Almighty God for our liberties, do ordain this Constitution....
Arkansas 1874, Preamble We, the people of the State of Arkansas , grateful to Almighty God for the privilege of choosing our own form of government...
California 1879, Preamble We, the People of the State of California , grateful to Almighty God for our freedom...
Colorado 1876, Preamble We, the people of Colorado , with profound reverence for the Supreme Ruler of Universe...
Connecticut 1818, Preamble. The People of Connecticut, acknowledging with gratitude the good Providence of God in  permitting them to enjoy.
Delaware 1897, Preamble Through Divine Goodness all men have, by nature, the rights of worshipping and serving their Creator according to the dictates of their consciences...
Florida 1885, Preamble We, the people of the State of Florida , grateful to Almighty God for our constitutional liberty, establish this Constitution...
Georgia 1777, Preamble We, the people of Georgia , relying upon protection and guidance of Almighty God, do ordain and establish this Constitution...
Hawaii 1959, Preamble We , the people of Hawaii , Grateful for Divine Guidance ... Establish this Constitution.
Idaho 1889, Preamble We, the people of the State of Idaho , grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, to secure its blessings.
Illinois 1870, Preamble We, the people of the State of Illinois, grateful to Almighty God for the civil , political and religious liberty which He hath so long permitted us to enjoy and looking to Him for a blessing on our endeavors.
Indiana 1851, Preamble We, the People of the State of Indiana , grateful to Almighty God for the free exercise of the right to choose our form of government.
Iowa 1857, Preamble We, the People of the St ate of Iowa , grateful to the Supreme Being for the blessings hitherto enjoyed, and feeling our dependence on Him for a continuation of these blessings, establish this Constitution.
Kansas 1859, Preamble We, the people of Kansas , grateful to Almighty God for our civil and religious privileges establish this Constitution.
Kentucky 1891, Preamble.. We, the people of the Commonwealth are grateful to Almighty God for the civil, political and religious liberties..
Louisiana 1921, Preamble We, the people of the State of Louisiana , grateful to Almighty God for the civil, political and religious liberties we enjoy.
Maine 1820, Preamble We the People of Maine acknowledging with grateful hearts the goodness of the Sovereign Ruler of the Universe in affording us an opportunity .. And imploring His aid and direction.
Maryland 1776, Preamble We, the people of the state of Maryland , grateful to Almighty God for our civil and religious liberty...
Massachusetts 1780, Preamble We...the people of Massachusetts, acknowledging with grateful hearts, the goodness of the Great Legislator of the Universe In the course of His Providence, an opportunity and devoutly imploring His direction  
Michigan 1908, Preamble.   We, the people of the State of Michigan , grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of freedom, establish this Constitution.
Minnesota, 1857, Preamble We, the people of the State of Minnesota, grateful to God for our civil and religious liberty, and desiring to perpetuate its blessings:
Mississippi 1890, Preamble We, the people of Mississippi in convention assembled, grateful to Almighty God, and invoking His blessing on our work.
Missouri 1845, Preamble We, the people of Missouri , with profound reverence for the Supreme Ruler of the Universe, and grateful for His goodness . Establish this Constitution...
Montana 1889, Preamble. We, the people of Montana , grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of liberty establish this Constitution ..
Nebraska 1875, Preamble We, the people, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom . Establish this Constitution.
Nevada 1864, Preamble We the people of the State of Nevada , grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, establish this Constitution...
New Hampshire 1792, Part I. Art. I. Sec. V Every individual has a natural and unalienable right to worship God according to the dictates of his own conscience.
New Jersey 1844, Preamble We, the people of the State of New Jersey, grateful to Almighty God for civil and religious liberty which He hath so long permitted us to enjoy, and looking to Him for a blessing on our endeavors.
New Mexico 1911, Preamble We, the People of New Mexico, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of liberty..
New York 1846, Preamble We, the people of the State of New York , grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, in order to secure its blessings.
North Carolina 1868, Preamble We the people of the State of North Carolina, grateful to Almighty God, the Sovereign Ruler of Nations, for our civil, political, and religious liberties, and acknowledging our dependence upon Him for the continuance of those...
North Dakota 1889, Preamble We , the people of North Dakota , grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of civil and religious liberty, do ordain...
Ohio 1852, Preamble We the people of the state of Ohio , grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, to secure its blessings and to promote our common.
Oklahoma 1907, Preamble Invoking the guidance of Almighty God, in order to secure and perpetuate the blessings of liberty, establish this
Oregon 1857, Bill of Rights, Article I Section 2. All men shall be secure in the Natural right, to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of their consciences
Pennsylvania 1776, Preamble We, the people of Pennsylvania, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of civil and religious liberty, and humbly invoking His guidance....
Rhode Island 1842, Preamble. We the People of the State of Rhode Island grateful to Almighty God for the civil and religious liberty which He hath so long permitted us to enjoy, and looking to Him for a blessing....
South Carolina , 1778, Preamble We, the people of he State of South Carolina grateful to God for our liberties, do ordain and establish this Constitution.
South Dakota 1889, Preamble We, the people of South Dakota , grateful to Almighty God for our civil and religious liberties ...
Tennessee 1796, Art. XI..III. That all men have a natural and indefeasible right to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of their conscience...
Texas 1845, Preamble We the People of the Republic of Texas , acknowledging, with gratitude, the grace and beneficence of God.
Utah 1896, Preamble Grateful to Almighty God for life and liberty, we establish this Constitution.
Vermont 1777, Preamble Whereas all government ought to enable the individuals who compose it to enjoy their natural rights, and other blessings which the Author of Existence has bestowed on man ..
Virginia 1776, Bill of Rights, XVI Religion, or the Duty which we owe our Creator can be directed only by Reason and that it is the mutual duty of all to practice Christian Forbearance, Love and Charity towards each other
Washington 1889, Preamble We the People of the State of Washington, grateful to the Supreme Ruler of the Universe for our liberties, do ordain this Constitution
West Virginia 1872, Preamble Since through Divine Providence we enjoy the blessings of civil, political and religious liberty, we, the people of West Virginia reaffirm our faith in and constant reliance upon God ....
Wisconsin 1848, Preamble We, the people of Wisconsin , grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, domestic tranquility...
Wyoming 1890, Preamble We, the people of the State of Wyoming , grateful to God for our civil, political, and religious liberties, establish this Constitution....

[bloodbought]

Jul. 10, 2009 at 6:37 PM

Hugs from me to you godsproperty07. I don't argue with them that have no interest in blesses America. It is pointless; they are blinded by themselves and believe a lie.

GOD BLESS AMERICA!

Thank You JESUS for keeping us safe!

(Original Poster)

[KristiS11384]

Jul. 10, 2009 at 6:40 PM

Wow, so much for civil conversation with you.

[IhartU]

Jul. 10, 2009 at 6:53 PM

Okay, so when God was still a big part of this country, what went right? What was better?  Was there was no war? No poverty? No people living in sin? No unemployment, disease or natural disasters? I think it's YOU who are blind. Things are the same with or without your fabricated God.

[godsproperty07]

Jul. 10, 2009 at 7:59 PM

 Romans 11:36:

   ³⁶For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.

 

[bloodbought]

Jul. 10, 2009 at 11:22 PM

IhartU and KristiS11384,

Would it be at all possible if you could just pass by my posts? I really do not feel like debating Jesus with you anymore and I do not want to fill up block space again.

Some maturity?

(Original Poster)