Here is a sample of marriage as it appears in the Bible:

1. Gays were not allowed to marry.

2. Women were viewed as the property of their husbands.

3. Abraham and Sarah were half-siblings.

4. If your husband died before you had a son, your brother-in-law was obligated to fill his role. If he couldn't, it became your father-in-law's job. Take a moment to really imagine that. Is that something you would really want?

5. It was okay for your husband to have sex with your maid to solve infertility problems.

6. Marriage was between one man and as many women as he liked (er, or could afford) so he could have as many children as possible.

7. Adam and Eve technically cohabited: there is no mention of any wedding ceremony anywhere in the Bible. I *bet* Eve didn't even wear a white dress!

8. If you found out your wife wasn't a virgin, it was okay to stone her.

9. Women stayed at home with their mothers in law and made babies. They did not have fulfilling jobs or hobbies outside serving their husband and children.

10.  Paul said marriage in general was bad, and you should only marry if you were completely and totally desperate for sex. What's love got to do with it? With him, nothing!


Anyone still think we should be following the biblical model?


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ethan...
Nov. 4, 2009 at 6:05 PM

Wow I was hoping for an unbiased look at marrige in the bible....this was completely insulting (which it didn't need to be), inaccurate, and a slap in the face to those who are religious who support gay marrige.

Oh and did I mention innaccurate? Just thought I would throw that out there again...

Way to go.

Colts...
Nov. 4, 2009 at 6:07 PM

*sigh* once again. never mind. I am shutting up. I just hate one sided arguements

mount...
Nov. 4, 2009 at 6:12 PM

It's not inaccurate, you just don't like it. I used to be a Baptist minister's wife. I know the Bible, theology, and the arguments from both sides. The only ones who seem to not know are those who still think  the biblical definition of marriage is one man and one woman. News flash: it's not. And if you think it is now, it's because it changed, which means that God's definition of marriage was never set in stone.

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mount...
Nov. 4, 2009 at 6:20 PM

Wait, I think I misread your comment. I am confused.  I do not understand why it is insulting to those who don't believe that the Bible's ideas of marriage should be taken literally. I didn't say it was a Christian view of marriage; it was a response to those who believe that Adam and Eve are the epitome of God's definition of marriage. I think that is clear from the title. No need to be offended if you don't believe it. And if people are offended because they do believe it, that's okay, because I am offended that we live in a country where civil rights can be taken away on a religious whim.

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ethan...
Nov. 4, 2009 at 6:33 PM

But the fact remains that the arguments you pulled forth from the bible ARE innaccurate and biased. And I find that unfortunate as people like me strive to bring forth equality in marrige for this nation.

The least you could do is provide unbiased accurate examples from the bible, but you didn't. You didn't stick with Adam and Eve having cohabitation vs. marrige you meandered to Womens roles and your misconstrued vision of right and wrong concerning some of the points you raised.

BTW I didn't say it was a Christian view either....

mount...
Nov. 4, 2009 at 6:50 PM

how is it inaccurate? Is it or is it not in the Bible? All you've done is say it's inaccurate without giving any rhyme or reason for it. Seriously, I'm listening. If I'm wrong, I'll amend the parts I'm wrong on. If it's in the Bible, it's in the Bible, and just because it doesn't match your viewpoint doesn't mean it's not accurate. At least, that's what I'm getting from the context of what you're saying.

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Anouck
Nov. 4, 2009 at 6:54 PM

As far as I can tell, this was pretty accurate. The only one I'm not sure about is the first one, to be honest, because from what I can tell, the original texts never even addressed homosexuality, that word first made its occurance somewhere in the 1800's... But other than that, I get what you're saying.

Those who are opposed to gay marriage "because the bible says so", conveniently choose not to follow the other 18000 rules the bible has, like the ones you mentioned. Which is COMPLETELY hypocritical. Either follow EVERYTHING the bible tells you to do, or shut up and let gay people have the right to marry, just like everybody else.

Pretty simple, really....

ethan...
Nov. 4, 2009 at 7:03 PM

Here's three brief lines that I can cover, but they certainly arent the only errors.

They did not have fulfilling jobs or hobbies outside serving their husband and children. This is incerdibly false. I would urge you to speak with an Orthodox Jewish Woman, they live their lives in accordance with all the old laws and restrictions (some that weren't even impossed on a Jewess during the making of the bible), and yet many many lead happy and active social lives.

 Adam and Eve technically cohabited: there is no mention of any wedding ceremony anywhere in the Bible. Actually....there WAS a wedding ceremony, although rather informal and nothing like we have today. Genisis 2:23-24 should clear that up for you. Adam did indeed take Eve as wife.

Abraham and Sarah were half-siblings. I would love to know where you pulled this from. While Abrahams lineage is mentioned in the bible...Sarai's isn't at all. At best you could suppose that they are distant cousins but hey, it's legal to marry your 3rd or fourth cousin (can't remember which) over here already!

So I could go on but....I think I have proven my point.

mount...
Nov. 4, 2009 at 8:52 PM

1. I didn't say anything about a social life. I was talking about jobs and hobbies as we would have them today. I purposely didn't say anything about a social life becuase I know that isn't true. What I meant was that there was no CafeMom or Mommy and Me classes or deciding you'd rather be a doctor or lawyer when you grew up. I didn't say they led unfulfilling lives, just that they couldn't find fulfillment in other roles as we can now. Their purpose in marriage, according to the Bible, was primarily as a wife and mother. If that role did not suit them, they did not really have any other options.

2. How is a wedding ceremony performed before God anything like a wedding ceremony performed today? They obviously had no minister. If all they did was promise that they would be together forever (though I don't know what the point would be considering their lack of choice in the matter), how is that different from a cohabiting couple who promises before God and themselves that they will be together forever?

 

3. That is a Catholic tradition derived from Genesis 20:12.

As previous poster said, my point was never to attack any religion, just the practice of cherry picking people are prone to do. So if you want to go on about my errors, please do, but you might want to make sure that they are actually errors before accusing me of making them. A quick google search could have found #3.

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Krist...
Nov. 4, 2009 at 8:59 PM

Hey, let's all go to Biblical definitions of marriage!  Being Gay is wrong but incest, polygamy and killing your wife was A Okay!

 

Please note sarcasm.  Marriage predates Christianity anyways. I just get tired of the "Against the Bible" argument.

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