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Things that make you go hmmm

Since I never seem to get a response on the other journals, I figured I'd post my own and see if any of you have the balls to answer some questions. And I'm talking LOGICAL, FACTUAL answers, none of that "because the bible says so". Because a) the ORIGINAL bible says no such thing (the game telephone, look into it, after so many translations I can GUARANTEE you that the current bible is not the "original word of god") and b) this is a LEGAL issue. Separation of church and state, remember? What your religion is telling you to do/think/whatever has NOTHING to do with this.

1) Exactly HOW do you believe making gay marriage legal is going to affect your life? Do you believe your husband will say "well, since it's legal now, let me leave you and marry my longtime gay lover"? Or what?

2) Do you HONESTLY believe they will "teach your kids about gay marriage" in school? Do they teach kids about straight marriage? Ummm, no, they don't.

3) WHY do you believe making gay marriage legal is going to "corrupt the US"? I mean, those who would get married are in a relationship NOW, so what's the difference?

4) Do you honestly believe a "civil union" gives them the same rights as a marriage would? Because it doesn't. And who the hell do you think you are that you feel you have the right to deny somebody those rights?

5) About that whole "men and women have children, men and men or women and women can't". By that "logic", do you believe infertile couples shouldn't be allowed to get married either? What about those couples who choose not to have kids? And since most of you are also part of the rabid "pro-life" movement, wouldn't you be HAPPY to have more loving couples who can adopt one of the many, many unwanted children out there?

I'm sure this is going to provoke some heated responses, and I can guarantee you that I will NOT delete any of them. Which is a lot more than I can say for some of you...

Yeah, I sound antagonistic and honestly, yes I AM spoiling for a fight. Because for the life of me I can NOT understand how anybody can possibly be opposed to something that would not affect them at all, but would be such a HUGE step forward towards equality. I know it will happen eventually, just the same way black people have gained equal rights, and women have gained equal rights. But I don't understand all the opposition, for no logical reason whatsoever. Why be so hateful and mean? Doesn't everybody deserve the right to love?

EDIT: Okay, after that 5th comment, I have to add this. Not only do I believe people who voted against legalizing gay marriage are wrong, and ignorant. I believe they're malicious. How dare you deny rights YOU take for granted to others? How would you feel if somebody told you "you know what, we've decided that women's right to vote was a bad idea after all, so let's just get rid of that"? Or "gee, we really don't think you black people deserve to be in the front of the bus, or hell, deserve to be free. So *POOF*, back to slavery you go"? Can you honestly not see that it's the exact same thing you're doing?

Argh. I'm going to punch a wall now.

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sati7...
Nov. 5, 2009 at 5:56 PM

I cannot give you your fight, i agree with you 110%

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JoyeA...
Nov. 5, 2009 at 6:04 PM

Dangit. I'd love to wrestle around with you but I too agree. Maybe next time we can throw down, yeah?

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Anouck
Nov. 5, 2009 at 6:15 PM

Ugh, I couldn't throw down with either one of you, since you have the extremely irritating habit of only saying things I agree with :P

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Anouck
Nov. 5, 2009 at 6:15 PM

Maybe if we add jell-o though... *wink*

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diva73
Nov. 5, 2009 at 6:18 PM

why does it have to be a fight, i mean i don't agree with it and you do. You have a right to believe what you want as do i.  That's just that way it is and i'm not afraid to say that i don't agree.  

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Anouck
Nov. 5, 2009 at 6:20 PM

Diva73, you're missing the point. Whether or not you agree with people being gay is not the issue here. The issue is whether or not you believe EVERYBODY should have equal rights. And basically, you're saying no, you don't believe that. How would you feel if people suddenly decided that no, you SHOULDN'T be allowed to sit anywhere but the back of the bus? Because believe me, back in those days, the majority of people did NOT want equal rights for black people... Same friggin' thing!

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diva73
Nov. 5, 2009 at 6:27 PM

believe it or not people still dont want equal rights for black people.......and guess what i deal with it all the time......believing that gay marriage isn't ok is a whole lot different then being sold and beat because your black, i dont think its the same at all.....i said i dont agree with it i didn't say beat them and sell them and make them salves not the same at all

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Anouck
Nov. 5, 2009 at 6:29 PM

Hmm, okay, it's obvious you have no idea how much discrimination gay people have to deal with on a daily basis... And that's sad. It's also sad that somebody who SHOULD have empathy, obviously doesn't.  Maybe some people still don't want equal rights for black people, but BY LAW, you have them. It IS the same.

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diva73
Nov. 5, 2009 at 6:37 PM

listen i have gay friend who are married and i love them very much, i also have gay children where i work and they are treated equally, but that doesn't mean that i have to agree with that choice........i don't hate gay people and my friends know that, but they also know that i dont agree with it.  Whats wrong with not agreeing the problem is that people are able to agree to disagree.  You think because i dont see eye to eye with you that i have no empathy... your wrong and your missing the point.  I will never agree with it. but that's me and how i feel and i should be free to feel that way with out people make it such a big deal.

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Anouck
Nov. 5, 2009 at 6:43 PM

I'm just really sick and tired of the "I have gay friends, I love them, BUT...." argument. If you truly love your friends, you'd want them to have the same rights you have, period. Doesn't mean you have to agree with them being gay. One has nothing to do with the other. I'm an atheist, I don't really understand how anybody can be religious, but I'm not going to deny them that right. See what I mean? No, you don't have to agree, but you should NOT vote against them getting equal rights. Period.  And for the record, it IS a big deal.

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