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Question: Do you think there is something wrong with the current marijuana laws?




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It all started with the following as a post on a few forums I am a part of:

"Have you guys read about this??

The breakdown:

A total of 2,964 babies were drug-tested at birth to see if they were positive for drugs - cocaine, opioids or cannabis were studied. 44% of the infants tested positive for all varieties of drugs, including the 3 being studied. During the first two years of their lives, 44 babies from the original group died. Since statistics are a drag to slog through, I'll cut right to the chase - the deaths per thousand live births - the numbers tell the story.

"No drugs at birth" deaths....... 15.7 deaths per 1000 live births
"Cocaine positive" deaths.......17.7 deaths per 1000 live births
"Opiate positive" deaths.......18.4 deaths per 1000 live births
"Cannabis positive" deaths.... 8.9 deaths per 1000 live births 

The cocaine and opiate babies have a higher death rate than the "No drugs" babies - that was to be expected. But look at the "cannabis" babies! Having extra cannabinoids in their bodies at birth (and likely later, from 2nd-hand exposure, or breast milk) seems to have some sort of a protective effect. The "cannabis" infants have a mortality rate almost half of what the "No drugs" infants have!

haha...I couldn't resist. 

This is another study performed in Jamaica with equally startling results. This one is done specifically with women who used different amount of marijuana and follows the children through the years to see how it effected them. 
My thoughts: 

Now, I have posted this on a couple of forums on Cafe Mom because I do believe that the information is intriguing and valuable. As many of you may already know I am all for marijuana rights. I worked really hard with many other volunteers to canvas Michigan to put the medical marijuana issue on the ballot. The majority of people I approached signed it but doubted it would go passed overwhelmingly - proving that this is NOT a liberal/conservative thing.

I strongly believe that you can not legislate nature - and marijuana is an herb ( Try making weeds "illegal" in your garden and let me know how that works out for you. You can't and never should try and stop nature. 

Now, of coarse something like this ended up turning into a debate. I saw that coming. What kills me though is how people are so well trained to simply shut off any ability to receive and process information about something they disagree with. I find that I have to overcome this sometimes myself, but I try very hard to. I can't consider myself knowledgeable about anything unless I am open to learning all of the information. 

This studies results are NOT uncommon - there are many similar studies and stories of how marijuana HELPS....not hurts. Likewise, there are very little stories or studies that prove anything negative about marijuana use. So, why do we still believe that marijuana is a "bad drug"? If it is only "because it is illegal"? And, if this is the case, should the law not be changed to match up with common knowledge and scientific fact? 

Consider this. Coffee was on the same chopping block as marijuana. These two things are actually pretty similar. Both give the user a "buzz", both are plants, both can be consumed by eating or drinking it, etc. So, ask yourself, if coffee was made illegal tomorrow would you find a way to get it? Would you be a "coffee head"? (um...YES)  Would there be coffee dealers? YES....there absolutely would be. Making coffee illegal would create an underground coffee market.

Now, let's talk alcohol. The prohibition of alcohol created a black market for it. Making it illegal created jobs for organized crime. When it was made legal the market crashed. There aren't any brewing dealers on a street corner selling beers or liquor. It would be the same with marijuana. Legalization would stop the drug dealer in their tracks. If there is not a market for it the market crashes. Then what happens? Well, government regulates and taxes it (like alcohol).  $5,763,336.00 was the 2008 tax revenue from alcohol sales....and it goes up at least $100,000 a year. Marijuana would easily bring in more - and that's not including the positive effect hemp could have on our economy AND environment. 

So, why marijuana? What is SO taboo about LEGALIZING it - or at the very least - decriminalizing it and letting adults make their own decisions about what THEY believe is the safest and best recreational drug to use? If there is actually no legitimate reason for marijuana to be illegal than we have to ask ourselves.... who gains the most by keeping it illegal? In every great crime there is a motive...and turning well to do citizens into criminals IS criminal.

Let's examine the evidence. Keeping marijuana illegal creates jobs and funding like it's nobodies business, not to mention the pharmaceutical companies would be on their knees. They wouldn't "go away" but they would certainly have a harder time being the pushers of pain and psych meds they are now. If you think for a moment that a lot of doctors are not just cunning modern day drug dealers, you are wrong. Did you know it is not LEGAL for a doctor to treat you nutritionally in the United States
(watch the movie FOOD MATTERS for great info on this)? Even though what we eat can and will contribute to whether you develop or heal from a disease they are prohibited from treating you through nutrition.WHY?!

All the money we pour into curing cancer ends up being a joke because there are millions of people out there who could change their diets and live. It's simple and basic...kind of like marijuana. You are what you eat. So, WHY wouldn't they incorporate that into treatment for patients? Why do they only recommend medical procedure or medication? The doctors are controlled by the pharmaceutical companies and by legislation (the two biggest forces against the legalization of marijuana) and none of them are interested in curing you. It's much better for them if you stay sick and they can treat your symptoms with something. It becomes a never ending cycle of pills you "need". 

Don't even get me started on the government's motives for keeping it illegal or the TOTAL SHAM for which it was made illegal in the first place. You can find out more about that by watching this -


Ask anyone who has ever REALLY used marijuana and they will probably tell you that it is much better than alcohol or most recreation drugs (including Rx). Marijuana is like the ginger beer of drugs. It just makes you giggle and feel a little hungry. Of coarse, like ANYTHING (even foods), it's not for everyone. And THAT'S OK. It doesn't have to be. But, we should respect each other enough to allow the individual the right to choose for themselves. ANYTHING CAN BE ABUSED. Just because some people have a problem with it doesn't mean we all will. Just because people die in car accidents we don't take away cars. No one even dies from marijuana and we still keep it illegal under the pretense that it is somehow "bad".  

I find it really interesting that the only real reasons they give us to "not smoke pot" is behavioral. "It'll make you murderously insane" ok, that's not true "It'll make you do harder drugs" ok, THATS NOT TRUE. "It will make you lazy" Not true either...etc. It's obvious that they are grasping straws because if they had scientific reasons for us not to use it, don't you think that they would shout it from the rooftops? The bottom line is, the people who do fucked up things or act a certain way on marijuana would probably be that way anyways. 

So - if we are so worried about how people are behaving WHY WOULDN'T WE MAKE ALCOHOL ILLEGAL??? People do worse things on alcohol than anything else in this country. Families are destroyed every day, whether it be their own or the family that they hit head on when they were driving drunk. Alcohol kills people every day directly and indirectly. Yet, it's perfectly legal to drink it in any amount that you so desire. Hell, you're free to drink enough to kill you. Know how much marijuana it would take to kill you?? You couldn't smoke that much if you tried. Trust me.

I guess I just don't understand how this issue is difficult for people to get and see right through. It's not about whether you want to do it or not - it's about right and wrong and people's RIGHT to choose for themselves. I am an adult and I expect to be treated like one. If I want to use a substance that has very little (to none if you don't smoke it) health risk and at the same time helps me balance out my bi-polar disorder and deal with my arthritis and endometriosis, then who are YOU or ANYONE else to say I can't or shouldn't? Especially knowing that even asprin kills people every year....and that's nothing compared to most prescription or even over the counter medications.  Marijuana doesn't kill. It helps. That IS the bottom line whether you like it or not. 

Since the biggest risk to using marijuana IS the law itself, why aren't we demanding change? Why instead is it acceptable to turn people who choose to use marijuana into criminals? I think that THAT is the greater crime here. The people's lives who are effected by the judgement they receive through our "justice" system deserved better. Around 89% of all people arrested for cannabis are arrested for possession alone. Not because they were beating their wives, not because they were stealing money to get more drugs, not because they were driving under the influence, not because they were hurting ANYONE. Just because they had it.

Can you really say that this is "right"? 

Below are some links that some people on this thread have contributed or that I have found to be relevant:

Information on the Liberatarian platform on Marijuana legalization:
(for the record I am not a liberatarian and I'm not trying to convince you to be one either. This is just information, people.)
Thank you!

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Nov. 15, 2010 at 12:29 PM

I agree with you completely.  Recently there was a study done where alcohol was the number 1 cause of deaths.  Plain and simple is that pharmaceutical companies would never allow marijuana to become legal for the sole reason, they can not profit from it.  They will be lobbist from here to the moon to ensure marijuana remains illegal. 

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Nov. 15, 2010 at 4:09 PM

I think smoke inhalation in general is just not a good idea. But I guess we have to ask ourselves if it is detrimental or beneficial to our health. What is beneficial for one person may not be beneficial to the next. I know the hindu holy men who smoke dope are always sickly, and have more health issues than the general population. And we probably all know someone who fits the stereotype of a 'burn-out'. Pot affects the brain...period. It's brain damage...killing the cells. However...for medical use, then I see that as being benificial.

And driving under the influence of pot....i should never have done it....ever. it does impair your ability. slow driving does not necessarily mean safe driving.


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Nov. 15, 2010 at 4:57 PM

Sigh. Not only does Cannabis NOT kill brain cells, it has actually been proven to promote growth of neurons in the hippocampus in rats. Not only that, but it aided in anti-anxiety and had anti-depressant effects.  There was no evidence of any cells being 'killed'. It is a myth put out there as a scare tactic. 

There has never been a death linked directly to the use of Cannabis. It is impossible to overdose on.  It has medicinal benefits for nearly EVERYTHING. 

Legalization. Taxation. Regulation. Medication. 

The problem is that people don't understand it's history or WHY it was made to be illegal.  All of the ads that came out saying that it was killing people or making people crazy was simply propaganda.  It's still propaganda that everyone chooses to believe.  SEVERAL surgeon generals have come forth saying that they did studies on Marijuana and it's benefits - but also that their studies were edited by the FDA to say nearly the exact opposite, or that they were never published.  Those former Surgeon Generals are now trying to get Marijuana legislation passed where they can. 

I could go on, and on, and on. But people are incredulous and undereducated on the subject.  I'm SO happy to see that there are other people out there that can look past just what the government tells us. 

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Nov. 15, 2010 at 6:53 PM

Legalize it already.  It is so ridiculous that we are paying billions tax dollars to keep people incarcerated, other countries are making billions off of our use of it, the government is losing tax money because it is not sold (& taxed) legally. Do we not have more serious problems to worry about than weather or not someone smokes marijuana?!?!?  The myths about it were created by big business & government... can anyone think of a reason to trust those two???

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Nov. 15, 2010 at 7:57 PM

thank you for the new info- good stuff there

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Nov. 15, 2010 at 9:37 PM

Voted this up!

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Nov. 15, 2010 at 10:06 PM

Amen to this.  As a recovering alcoholic with major depression and anxiety issues, I would much rather depend on a natural weed then the legal, easy-access of alcohol and the major damage it can do to one's life and/or someone elses all aroundlove you sign.  What are Californians afraid of?  Better yet, what are Americans afraid of ..........too much, everything, nothing...????

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Nov. 15, 2010 at 10:52 PM Great post! I soo agree!

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Nov. 15, 2010 at 11:03 PM

Bevy40 - thnx for doing the typing :) JUST what I would say!

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Nov. 15, 2010 at 11:48 PM

Marijuana is only one of MANY medicinal resources provided for us by good ole Mother Nature. There are many reasons why it's criminalized, and one of them is that the government and the pharmaceutical companies wouldn't be able to make all of the money off of it, because people could grow it at home. The laws need to be changed! Marijuana can help MANY people, and it's a shame that it's lumped in with so many things that are actually harmful to indivuals and society, whether it's physically, mentally,  financially, socially, etc.

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