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RE: 1. Lurking 2. Trolling 3. Bothering 4. Stalking by Anonymous
- May 30, 2007 at 12:31 PM
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Have you noticed on Cafemom all the fake profiles? They belong to women from a mommy message board (MM). They lurk and find posts here and take them to their message board and put them in a thread and then attack the person who wrote it. They create fake profiles here and then attack the mother who wrote the post here at cafemom. I find this completely inappropriate.
How unfair for you to point your finger at one specific group from a certain board when it has been proved time and again that A LOT of deleted women do this same thing? There are even groups within THIS community that do it. Why are these women to be blamed for a behavior exhibited by all??
Also as a point of fact the only women I have seen "attacked" by anyone from MM, were phonies, bullies or outright liars. Why do they come here under fake names to do it? Because under the TOS here you aren't allowed to attack another member. I may know beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are lying but I don't get to say so in public here.
One of them claims to have her home IP blocked from cafemom. But she still comes over here while she is home and finds posts and puts them in a thread there.
CafeMom is not a private site. Anyone can access ANY of the posts from ANYWHERE on the web. Which means that even if your IP is blocked, you can still get emails from friends with links and or whole posts cut and pasted from the site. I have seen this done on many MANY other sites. It isn't just here that it happens. I've seen an entire post from here as a bulletin on MySpace.
These women (use the term lightly) attack other message boards too. They will go to other mommy message boards under fake ids and try to degrade women there as well. They will make profile after profile. After they have been banned from the site they keep creating profiles under anonymous web surfers.
We know that there are women who go from site to site causing trouble, and that it doesn't just happen here. Sadly these women (at MM) are being specifically named as the "trolls" here at the Cafe. The truth is it has happened to them by another board and to them as well, etc, etc..... It happens to EVERY board regardless of what is it about and who. As I said above, this Cafe of ours is not Private, it is not a secure site and even a 12 yo can lie and make a fake profile to play around.
This is high school behavior and it needs to stop.
I don't deny that this is high school behavior. Keep in mind thought that the youngest moms on this site are in their teens and therefore are in high school. Just because many of us are closer to our 10, 15, 20+ year reunions doesn't really make us anymore mature than them. How we choose to deal with the issues is what makes us grown ups. Pointing fingers in an Anonymous post isn't very mature either.
This would be a terrible way to promote a message board IMO. They let people know the name of their message board while attacking others. How is that for positive advertising for your message board?
The women at MM have never "promoted" their group in this way. People with an agenda assume that the trouble is being caused by MM because of posts like this. The truth is that some members of MM do engage in this behavior, as do people here and at iVillage and any other site. It's called "free will". The Moderators and Admins at any of these groups are not sitting in ours houses making decisions for us. If you choose to engage in any of these behaviors, YOU alone should be held accountable for your actions, NOT a site you frequent.
Are these women really mothers? I don't see how they could be.
I find this offensive. These women are mothers, and sisters, grandmothers, aunts and best friends. There is no reason a womans motherhood should be called into question because of poor behavior on-line. I think it is irresponsible to leave children under the age of 10 alone in a hotel room in a foreign country but I don't deny that the woman who's daughter was kidnapped, is actually a mother. She had poor judgement and I promise you that if she gets a second chance, she will never make that mistake again. It doesn't make her any less of a mother, and neither does this.
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Brava! Bravisima!
Seriously - very well stated... and very well put...
As I said on that post as well:
"The women (use the term lightly)" - I think the poster meant "ladies" here, or at least I hope so - since "women" is in reference to gender only, and not to behavior. Last time I checked - anyone with female genetics/reproductive organs is a WOMAN.
"Are these women even mothers..."
Since when does disagreeing with someone give anyone the right to question their status as "mother"? Good grief! By that logic, I should be out questioning all of the women who use atrocious grammar - are you even MOTHERS? I mean, your grammar is HORRIBLE!
From what I understood in this post, Mrs.E was stating that there are people that go from site to site starting stuff on other boards, and that the moms from MM shouldn't be blamed for all of the so called trolling around here. There's drama everywhere. CafeMom isn' t drama free, and personally I think that without the drama, Cafemom wouldn't be as popular as it is today. But like with everything there's a time when a line needs to be drawn so that the integrity of the site does not completely get lost in the politics of every single member. there's more that I'd like to say, but I believe that would cause me to be reprimanded in some way, so I'm gonna keep it where they want it kept...
From what I understood in this post, Mrs.E was stating that there are people that go from site to site starting stuff on other boards, and that the moms from MM shouldn't be blamed for all of the so called trolling around here. There's drama everywhere. CafeMom isn' t drama free, and personally I think that without the drama, Cafemom wouldn't be as popular as it is today. But like with everything there's a time when a line needs to be drawn so that the integrity of the site does not completely get lost in the politics of every single member.
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This is what I was trying to say. Thank you.
This would be a terrible way to promote a message board IMO. They let people know the name of their message board while attacking others. How is that for positive advertising for your message board?
The women at MM have never "promoted" their group in this way. People with an agenda assume that the trouble is being caused by MM because of posts like this. The truth is that some members of MM do engage in this behavior, as do people here and at iVillage and any other site. It's called "free will". The Moderators and Admins at any of these groups are not sitting in ours houses making decisions for us. If you choose to engage in any of these behaviors, YOU alone should be held accountable for your actions, NOT a site you frequent.
You know, i've always wondered about all of the drama here. I wonder how many of the fake drama causing profiles are created to raise the hits to THIS site. Have you ever noticed it's the big controversial arguments that get "most popular" while the other stuff doesn't last a minute. Just a thought.
Nicely written Mrs. E!
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