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God vs. Science
- Nov 13, 2007 at 11:29 AM
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A science professor begins his school year with a lecture to the students, "Let me explain the problem science has with religion." The atheist professor of philosophy pauses before his class and then asks one of his new students to stand.
"You're a Christian, aren't you, son?"
"Yes sir," the student says.
"So you believe in God?"
"Absolutely."
"Is God good?"
"Sure! God's good."
"Is God all-powerful? Can God do anything?"
"Yes."
"Are you good or evil?"
"The Bible says I'm evil."
The professor grins knowingly. "Aha! The Bible!" He considers for a moment. "Here's one for you. Let's say there's a sick person over here and you can cure him. You can do it. Would you help him? Would you try?"
"Yes sir, I would."
"So you're good...!"
"I wouldn't say that."
"But why not say that? You'd help a sick and maimed person if you could. Most of us would if we could. But God doesn't."
The student does not answer, so the professor continues. "He doesn't, does he? My brother was a Christian who died of cancer, even though he prayed to Jesus to heal him. How is this Jesus good? Hmmm? Can you answer that one?"
The student remains silent.
"No, you can't, can you?" the professor says. He takes a sip of water from a glass on his desk to give the student time to relax.
"Let's start again, young fella. Is God good?"
"Er...yes," the student says.
"Is Satan good?"
The student doesn't hesitate on this one. "No."
"Then where does Satan come from?"
The student falters. "From God"
"That's right. God made Satan, didn't he? Tell me, son. Is there evil in this world?"
"Yes, sir."
"Evil's everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything, correct?"
"Yes."
"So who created evil?" The professor continued, "If God created everything, then God created evil, since evil exists, and according to the principle that our works define who we are, then God is evil."
Again, the student has no answer. "Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things, do they exist in this world?"
The student squirms on his feet. "Yes."
"So who created them?"
The student does not answer again, so the professor repeats his question. "Who created them?" There is still no answer. Suddenly the lecturer breaks away to pace in front of the classroom. The class is mesmerized. "Tell me," he continues onto another student. "Do you believe in Jesus Christ, son?"
The student's voice betrays him and cracks. "Yes, professor, I do."
The old man stops pacing. "Science says you have five senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Have you ever seen Jesus?"
"No sir. I've never seen Him."
"Then tell us if you've ever heard your Jesus?"
"No, sir, I have not."
"Have you ever felt your Jesus, tasted your Jesus or smelt your Jesus? Have you ever had any sensory perception of Jesus Christ, or God for that matter?"
"No, sir, I'm afraid I haven't."
"Yet you still believe in him?"
"Yes."
"According to the rules of empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your God doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?"
"Nothing," the student replies. "I only have my faith."
"Yes, faith," the professor repeats. "And that is the problem science has with God. There is no evidence, only faith."
The student stands quietly for a moment, before asking a question of His own. "Professor, is there such thing as heat?"
"Yes," the professor replies. "There's heat."
"And is there such a thing as cold?"
"Yes, son, there's cold too."
"No sir, there isn't."
The professor turns to face the student, obviously interested. The room suddenly becomes very quiet. The student begins to explain. "You can have lots of heat, even more heat, super-heat, mega-heat, unlimited heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat, but we don't have anything called 'cold'. We can hit up to 458 degrees below zero, which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold; otherwise we would be able to go colder than the lowest -458 degrees."
"Every body or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy. Absolute zero (-458 F) is the total absence of heat. You see, sir, cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat we can measure in thermal units because heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it."
Silence across the room. A pen drops somewhere in the classroom, sounding like a hammer.
"What about darkness, professor. Is there such a thing as darkness?"
"Yes," the professor replies without hesitation. "What is night if it isn't darkness?"
"You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is not something; it is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light, but if you have no light constantly you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? That's the meaning we use to define the word."
"In reality, darkness isn't. If it were, you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?"
The professor begins to smile at the student in front of him. This will be a good semester. "So what point are you making, young man?"
"Yes, professor. My point is, your philosophical premise is flawed to start with, and so your conclusion must also be flawed."
The professor's face cannot hide his surprise this time. "Flawed? Can you explain how?"
"You are working on the premise of duality," the student explains. "You argue that there is life and then there's death; a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought."
"It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life, just the absence of it."
"Now tell me, professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?"
"If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, young man, yes, of course I do."
"Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?"
The professor begins to shake his head, still smiling, as he realizes where the argument is going. A very good semester, indeed.
"Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you now not a scientist, but a preacher?"
The class is in uproar. The student remains silent until the commotion has subsided.
"To continue the point you were making earlier to the other student, let me give you an example of what I mean."
The student looks around the room. "Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the professor's brain?" The class breaks out into laughter.
"Is there anyone here who has ever heard the professor's brain, felt the professor's brain, touched or smelt the professor's brain? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain, with all due respect, sir."
"So if science says you have no brain, how can we trust your lectures, sir?"
Now the room is silent. The professor just stares at the student, his face unreadable.
Finally, after what seems an eternity, the old man answers. "I guess you'll have to take them on faith."
"Now, you accept that there is faith, and, in fact, faith exists with life," the student continues. "Now, sir, is there such a thing as evil?"
Now uncertain, the professor responds, "Of course, there is. We see it everyday. It is in the daily example of man's inhumanity to man. It is in the multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world. These manifestations are nothing else but evil."
To this the student replied, "Evil does not exist sir, or at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God's love present in his heart. It's like the cold that comes when there is no heat or the darkness that comes when there is no light."
The professor sat down.
"You're a Christian, aren't you, son?"
"Yes sir," the student says.
"So you believe in God?"
"Absolutely."
"Is God good?"
"Sure! God's good."
"Is God all-powerful? Can God do anything?"
"Yes."
"Are you good or evil?"
"The Bible says I'm evil."
The professor grins knowingly. "Aha! The Bible!" He considers for a moment. "Here's one for you. Let's say there's a sick person over here and you can cure him. You can do it. Would you help him? Would you try?"
"Yes sir, I would."
"So you're good...!"
"I wouldn't say that."
"But why not say that? You'd help a sick and maimed person if you could. Most of us would if we could. But God doesn't."
The student does not answer, so the professor continues. "He doesn't, does he? My brother was a Christian who died of cancer, even though he prayed to Jesus to heal him. How is this Jesus good? Hmmm? Can you answer that one?"
The student remains silent.
"No, you can't, can you?" the professor says. He takes a sip of water from a glass on his desk to give the student time to relax.
"Let's start again, young fella. Is God good?"
"Er...yes," the student says.
"Is Satan good?"
The student doesn't hesitate on this one. "No."
"Then where does Satan come from?"
The student falters. "From God"
"That's right. God made Satan, didn't he? Tell me, son. Is there evil in this world?"
"Yes, sir."
"Evil's everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything, correct?"
"Yes."
"So who created evil?" The professor continued, "If God created everything, then God created evil, since evil exists, and according to the principle that our works define who we are, then God is evil."
Again, the student has no answer. "Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things, do they exist in this world?"
The student squirms on his feet. "Yes."
"So who created them?"
The student does not answer again, so the professor repeats his question. "Who created them?" There is still no answer. Suddenly the lecturer breaks away to pace in front of the classroom. The class is mesmerized. "Tell me," he continues onto another student. "Do you believe in Jesus Christ, son?"
The student's voice betrays him and cracks. "Yes, professor, I do."
The old man stops pacing. "Science says you have five senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Have you ever seen Jesus?"
"No sir. I've never seen Him."
"Then tell us if you've ever heard your Jesus?"
"No, sir, I have not."
"Have you ever felt your Jesus, tasted your Jesus or smelt your Jesus? Have you ever had any sensory perception of Jesus Christ, or God for that matter?"
"No, sir, I'm afraid I haven't."
"Yet you still believe in him?"
"Yes."
"According to the rules of empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your God doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?"
"Nothing," the student replies. "I only have my faith."
"Yes, faith," the professor repeats. "And that is the problem science has with God. There is no evidence, only faith."
The student stands quietly for a moment, before asking a question of His own. "Professor, is there such thing as heat?"
"Yes," the professor replies. "There's heat."
"And is there such a thing as cold?"
"Yes, son, there's cold too."
"No sir, there isn't."
The professor turns to face the student, obviously interested. The room suddenly becomes very quiet. The student begins to explain. "You can have lots of heat, even more heat, super-heat, mega-heat, unlimited heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat, but we don't have anything called 'cold'. We can hit up to 458 degrees below zero, which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold; otherwise we would be able to go colder than the lowest -458 degrees."
"Every body or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy. Absolute zero (-458 F) is the total absence of heat. You see, sir, cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat we can measure in thermal units because heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it."
Silence across the room. A pen drops somewhere in the classroom, sounding like a hammer.
"What about darkness, professor. Is there such a thing as darkness?"
"Yes," the professor replies without hesitation. "What is night if it isn't darkness?"
"You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is not something; it is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light, but if you have no light constantly you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? That's the meaning we use to define the word."
"In reality, darkness isn't. If it were, you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?"
The professor begins to smile at the student in front of him. This will be a good semester. "So what point are you making, young man?"
"Yes, professor. My point is, your philosophical premise is flawed to start with, and so your conclusion must also be flawed."
The professor's face cannot hide his surprise this time. "Flawed? Can you explain how?"
"You are working on the premise of duality," the student explains. "You argue that there is life and then there's death; a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought."
"It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life, just the absence of it."
"Now tell me, professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?"
"If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, young man, yes, of course I do."
"Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?"
The professor begins to shake his head, still smiling, as he realizes where the argument is going. A very good semester, indeed.
"Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you now not a scientist, but a preacher?"
The class is in uproar. The student remains silent until the commotion has subsided.
"To continue the point you were making earlier to the other student, let me give you an example of what I mean."
The student looks around the room. "Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the professor's brain?" The class breaks out into laughter.
"Is there anyone here who has ever heard the professor's brain, felt the professor's brain, touched or smelt the professor's brain? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain, with all due respect, sir."
"So if science says you have no brain, how can we trust your lectures, sir?"
Now the room is silent. The professor just stares at the student, his face unreadable.
Finally, after what seems an eternity, the old man answers. "I guess you'll have to take them on faith."
"Now, you accept that there is faith, and, in fact, faith exists with life," the student continues. "Now, sir, is there such a thing as evil?"
Now uncertain, the professor responds, "Of course, there is. We see it everyday. It is in the daily example of man's inhumanity to man. It is in the multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world. These manifestations are nothing else but evil."
To this the student replied, "Evil does not exist sir, or at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God's love present in his heart. It's like the cold that comes when there is no heat or the darkness that comes when there is no light."
The professor sat down.
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Nov. 13, 2007 at 11:34 AM
"According to the rules of empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your God doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?"
"Nothing," the student replies. "I only have my faith."
"Yes, faith," the professor repeats. "And that is the problem science has with God. There is no evidence, only faith."
The student stands quietly for a moment, before asking a question of His own. "Professor, is there such thing as heat?"
"Yes," the professor replies. "There's heat."
"And is there such a thing as cold?"
"Yes, son, there's cold too."
****THIS IS WHEN REALIZED THAT THIS STORY WASN'T REAL. ANY PROFESSOR OF SCIENCE WOULD TELL YOU THAT THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS COLD. LIKE WE LEARNED IN THE STUDENT'S RESPONSE, THERE IS NO COLD, ONLY THE ABSENSE OF HEAT. THIS IS A SIMPLE CONCEPT...ONE THAT I LEARNED IN THE 7TH GRADE. THERE IS NO SCIENTIFIC TERM FOR COLD. CHECK IN ANY MIDDLE SCHOOL SCIENCE TEXT BOOK...SO I CAN HARDLY BELIEVE THAT A COLLEGE PROFESSOR OF SCIENECE WOULD BE SO MISTAKEN TO BELIEVE THAT THE TERM "COLD" EXISTS IN SCIENCE.****
"No sir, there isn't."
The professor turns to face the student, obviously interested. The room suddenly becomes very quiet. The student begins to explain. "You can have lots of heat, even more heat, super-heat, mega-heat, unlimited heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat, but we don't have anything called 'cold'. We can hit up to 458 degrees below zero, which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold; otherwise we would be able to go colder than the lowest -458 degrees."
"Every body or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy. Absolute zero (-458 F) is the total absence of heat. You see, sir, cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat we can measure in thermal units because heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it."
***THE STUDENT IS TRYING TO SOMEHOW PROVE THE EXISTENCE OF GOD BY PRESENTING THE IDEA THAT COLD CANNOT BE STUDIED OR MEASURED, YET SCIENCE AKNOWLEDGES IT AS A SCIENTIFIC REALITY...WHEN IN ACTUALITY, SCIENCE DOES NOT RECOGNIZE THE CONCEPT OF COLD. YOU CAN, HOWEVER, MEASURE THE ABSENSE OF HEAT...UP UNTIL THE POINT OF ABSOLUTE ZERO. BEYOND THAT POINT, MOLECULES WOULD NOT MOVE...THEREFORE THE MATTER WOULD HAVE NO ENERGY....THEREFORE IT WOULD CEASE TO EXIST. WE CANNOT STUDY THAT WHICH DOES NOT EXIST. THAT IS ONE REASON WE DO NOT ACCEPT YOUR GOD.***
Silence across the room. A pen drops somewhere in the classroom, sounding like a hammer.
"What about darkness, professor. Is there such a thing as darkness?"
"Yes," the professor replies without hesitation. "What is night if it isn't darkness?"
"You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is not something; it is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light, but if you have no light constantly you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? That's the meaning we use to define the word."
"In reality, darkness isn't. If it were, you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?"
***ONCE AGAIN, THE AUTHOR OF THIS CHARMING LITTLE STORY IS TRYING TO CONVINCE HIS AUDIENCE THAT THE STUDENT IS BREAKING DOWN SCIENTIFIC ARGUMENTS AGAINST THE CHRISTIAN GOD....WHEN HE IS ACTUALLY TALKING NONSENSE. THIS PROFESSOR IS NOT REAL B/C HE WOULD NEVER CLAIM THAT COLD AND DARKNESS EXIST IN SCIENCE! ANY SCIENTIST WOULD TELL YOU THAT. THE PROBLEM WITH THIS "DARKNESS" AGRUMENT IS THE SAME AS THE WITH "COLD" ARGUMENT. IT PROVES ABSOLUTELY NOTHING BECAUSE SCIENCE DOES NOT RECOGNIZE THESE TWO WORDS. NO PROFESSOR WOULD ACTUALLY BE STANDING THERE SPEECHLESS...IT JUST MAKES FOR A NICE STORY. IT'S RIDICULOUS.****
The professor begins to smile at the student in front of him. This will be a good semester. "So what point are you making, young man?"
"Yes, professor. My point is, your philosophical premise is flawed to start with, and so your conclusion must also be flawed."
The professor's face cannot hide his surprise this time. "Flawed? Can you explain how?"
"You are working on the premise of duality," the student explains. "You argue that there is life and then there's death; a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought."
"It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life, just the absence of it."
"Now tell me, professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?"
"If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, young man, yes, of course I do."
"Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?"
The professor begins to shake his head, still smiling, as he realizes where the argument is going. A very good semester, indeed.
"Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you now not a scientist, but a preacher?"
****OK WOW....SO WHERE TO START WITH THIS ONE...ACTUALLY THIS IS COMPLETEY FALSE. WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO OBSERVE THE PROCESS OF EVOLUTION. WE SEE IT IN THE MUTATIONS OF DRUG RESISTANT BACTERIA. EVOLUTION IS NOT SUCH A FAR OUT CONCEPT, FRIENDS. I CANNOT EVEN BEGIN TO ARGUE THIS ONE WITH YOU. I CAN ONLY TELL YOU THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO STUDY EVOLUTION...NOT ONLY BY USING THE FOSSIL RECORD, BUT ALSO BY WATCHING WITH OUR OWN TWO EYES.****
The class is in uproar. The student remains silent until the commotion has subsided.
"To continue the point you were making earlier to the other student, let me give you an example of what I mean."
The student looks around the room. "Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the professor's brain?" The class breaks out into laughter.
"Is there anyone here who has ever heard the professor's brain, felt the professor's brain, touched or smelt the professor's brain? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain, with all due respect, sir."
"So if science says you have no brain, how can we trust your lectures, sir?"
Now the room is silent. The professor just stares at the student, his face unreadable.
Finally, after what seems an eternity, the old man answers. "I guess you'll have to take them on faith."
****OK HUGE HUGE HUGE PROBLEMS HERE...I MEAN SERIOUSLY PEOPLE...THIS ONE IS JUST PLAIN STUPID. HOW DO I KNOW YOU HAVE A BRAIN??? HMM....POSSIBLY BECAUSE I COULD RUN ANY NUMBER OF MEDICAL TESTS ON YOU AND ACTUALLY SEE-WITH MY OWN EYES-YOUR BRAIN INSIDE YOUR HEAD....POSSIBLY BECAUSE SCIENCE HAS EXPLORED THE MYSTERY OF HUMAN ANATOMY FOR US...WHICH IS WHY IT IS NO LONGER A MYSTERY THAT YOU HAVE A BRAIN....POSSIBLY BECAUSE A DOCTOR COULD WALK INTO ANY MORGUE ON THE PLANET AND CUT OPEN THE HEAD OF A CORPSE AND EXPECT TO FIND A BRAIN IN EACH ONE....POSSIBLY BECAUSE WE CAN STUDYTHE ELCTRICAL IMPULSES OF THE BRAIN THROUGH MEDICAL TESTS SUCH AS AN EEG OR THOUGH NON MEDICAL TESTS SUCH AS REACTION TO PAIN.....I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE A BRAIN BECAUSE I CAN USE MY SENSES TO PROVE IT. I CANNOT OBSERVE GOD WITH MY SENSES. HE DOES NOT EXIST.
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To this the student replied, "Evil does not exist sir, or at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God's love present in his heart. It's like the cold that comes when there is no heat or the darkness that comes when there is no light."
The professor sat down.
This student's statements are true, can you or can you not make night darker?
Is it possible for it to get colder after absolute zero -458 degree's F.
Can you feel, taste, see, hear, or smell your brain?
If you support this student's statements, then repost.
God in heaven won't mind if you do or don't.
No you won't go to hell.
But your conscience will feel great if you do.
***THESE ARE JUST A FEW PROBLEMS THAT I HAVE WITH THIS BULLETIN. UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T HAVE TIME TO GO THROUGH AND PICK APART THE ENTIRE THING....JUST KNOW THAT YOU CANNOT BELIEVE WHAT YOU READ TO BE TRUTH JUST BECAUSE THEY USE WORDS THAT SOUND SCIENTIFIC. GO, LEARN, FIND TRUTH FOR YOURSELF. OPEN A BOOK. PLEASE STOP LISTENING TO NONSENSE.
"According to the rules of empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your God doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?"
"Nothing," the student replies. "I only have my faith."
"Yes, faith," the professor repeats. "And that is the problem science has with God. There is no evidence, only faith."
The student stands quietly for a moment, before asking a question of His own. "Professor, is there such thing as heat?"
"Yes," the professor replies. "There's heat."
"And is there such a thing as cold?"
"Yes, son, there's cold too."
****THIS IS WHEN REALIZED THAT THIS STORY WASN'T REAL. ANY PROFESSOR OF SCIENCE WOULD TELL YOU THAT THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS COLD. LIKE WE LEARNED IN THE STUDENT'S RESPONSE, THERE IS NO COLD, ONLY THE ABSENSE OF HEAT. THIS IS A SIMPLE CONCEPT...ONE THAT I LEARNED IN THE 7TH GRADE. THERE IS NO SCIENTIFIC TERM FOR COLD. CHECK IN ANY MIDDLE SCHOOL SCIENCE TEXT BOOK...SO I CAN HARDLY BELIEVE THAT A COLLEGE PROFESSOR OF SCIENECE WOULD BE SO MISTAKEN TO BELIEVE THAT THE TERM "COLD" EXISTS IN SCIENCE.****
"No sir, there isn't."
The professor turns to face the student, obviously interested. The room suddenly becomes very quiet. The student begins to explain. "You can have lots of heat, even more heat, super-heat, mega-heat, unlimited heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat, but we don't have anything called 'cold'. We can hit up to 458 degrees below zero, which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold; otherwise we would be able to go colder than the lowest -458 degrees."
"Every body or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy. Absolute zero (-458 F) is the total absence of heat. You see, sir, cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat we can measure in thermal units because heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it."
***THE STUDENT IS TRYING TO SOMEHOW PROVE THE EXISTENCE OF GOD BY PRESENTING THE IDEA THAT COLD CANNOT BE STUDIED OR MEASURED, YET SCIENCE AKNOWLEDGES IT AS A SCIENTIFIC REALITY...WHEN IN ACTUALITY, SCIENCE DOES NOT RECOGNIZE THE CONCEPT OF COLD. YOU CAN, HOWEVER, MEASURE THE ABSENSE OF HEAT...UP UNTIL THE POINT OF ABSOLUTE ZERO. BEYOND THAT POINT, MOLECULES WOULD NOT MOVE...THEREFORE THE MATTER WOULD HAVE NO ENERGY....THEREFORE IT WOULD CEASE TO EXIST. WE CANNOT STUDY THAT WHICH DOES NOT EXIST. THAT IS ONE REASON WE DO NOT ACCEPT YOUR GOD.***
Silence across the room. A pen drops somewhere in the classroom, sounding like a hammer.
"What about darkness, professor. Is there such a thing as darkness?"
"Yes," the professor replies without hesitation. "What is night if it isn't darkness?"
"You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is not something; it is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light, but if you have no light constantly you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? That's the meaning we use to define the word."
"In reality, darkness isn't. If it were, you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?"
***ONCE AGAIN, THE AUTHOR OF THIS CHARMING LITTLE STORY IS TRYING TO CONVINCE HIS AUDIENCE THAT THE STUDENT IS BREAKING DOWN SCIENTIFIC ARGUMENTS AGAINST THE CHRISTIAN GOD....WHEN HE IS ACTUALLY TALKING NONSENSE. THIS PROFESSOR IS NOT REAL B/C HE WOULD NEVER CLAIM THAT COLD AND DARKNESS EXIST IN SCIENCE! ANY SCIENTIST WOULD TELL YOU THAT. THE PROBLEM WITH THIS "DARKNESS" AGRUMENT IS THE SAME AS THE WITH "COLD" ARGUMENT. IT PROVES ABSOLUTELY NOTHING BECAUSE SCIENCE DOES NOT RECOGNIZE THESE TWO WORDS. NO PROFESSOR WOULD ACTUALLY BE STANDING THERE SPEECHLESS...IT JUST MAKES FOR A NICE STORY. IT'S RIDICULOUS.****
The professor begins to smile at the student in front of him. This will be a good semester. "So what point are you making, young man?"
"Yes, professor. My point is, your philosophical premise is flawed to start with, and so your conclusion must also be flawed."
The professor's face cannot hide his surprise this time. "Flawed? Can you explain how?"
"You are working on the premise of duality," the student explains. "You argue that there is life and then there's death; a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought."
"It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life, just the absence of it."
"Now tell me, professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?"
"If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, young man, yes, of course I do."
"Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?"
The professor begins to shake his head, still smiling, as he realizes where the argument is going. A very good semester, indeed.
"Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you now not a scientist, but a preacher?"
****OK WOW....SO WHERE TO START WITH THIS ONE...ACTUALLY THIS IS COMPLETEY FALSE. WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO OBSERVE THE PROCESS OF EVOLUTION. WE SEE IT IN THE MUTATIONS OF DRUG RESISTANT BACTERIA. EVOLUTION IS NOT SUCH A FAR OUT CONCEPT, FRIENDS. I CANNOT EVEN BEGIN TO ARGUE THIS ONE WITH YOU. I CAN ONLY TELL YOU THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO STUDY EVOLUTION...NOT ONLY BY USING THE FOSSIL RECORD, BUT ALSO BY WATCHING WITH OUR OWN TWO EYES.****
The class is in uproar. The student remains silent until the commotion has subsided.
"To continue the point you were making earlier to the other student, let me give you an example of what I mean."
The student looks around the room. "Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the professor's brain?" The class breaks out into laughter.
"Is there anyone here who has ever heard the professor's brain, felt the professor's brain, touched or smelt the professor's brain? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain, with all due respect, sir."
"So if science says you have no brain, how can we trust your lectures, sir?"
Now the room is silent. The professor just stares at the student, his face unreadable.
Finally, after what seems an eternity, the old man answers. "I guess you'll have to take them on faith."
****OK HUGE HUGE HUGE PROBLEMS HERE...I MEAN SERIOUSLY PEOPLE...THIS ONE IS JUST PLAIN STUPID. HOW DO I KNOW YOU HAVE A BRAIN??? HMM....POSSIBLY BECAUSE I COULD RUN ANY NUMBER OF MEDICAL TESTS ON YOU AND ACTUALLY SEE-WITH MY OWN EYES-YOUR BRAIN INSIDE YOUR HEAD....POSSIBLY BECAUSE SCIENCE HAS EXPLORED THE MYSTERY OF HUMAN ANATOMY FOR US...WHICH IS WHY IT IS NO LONGER A MYSTERY THAT YOU HAVE A BRAIN....POSSIBLY BECAUSE A DOCTOR COULD WALK INTO ANY MORGUE ON THE PLANET AND CUT OPEN THE HEAD OF A CORPSE AND EXPECT TO FIND A BRAIN IN EACH ONE....POSSIBLY BECAUSE WE CAN STUDYTHE ELCTRICAL IMPULSES OF THE BRAIN THROUGH MEDICAL TESTS SUCH AS AN EEG OR THOUGH NON MEDICAL TESTS SUCH AS REACTION TO PAIN.....I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE A BRAIN BECAUSE I CAN USE MY SENSES TO PROVE IT. I CANNOT OBSERVE GOD WITH MY SENSES. HE DOES NOT EXIST.
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To this the student replied, "Evil does not exist sir, or at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God's love present in his heart. It's like the cold that comes when there is no heat or the darkness that comes when there is no light."
The professor sat down.
This student's statements are true, can you or can you not make night darker?
Is it possible for it to get colder after absolute zero -458 degree's F.
Can you feel, taste, see, hear, or smell your brain?
If you support this student's statements, then repost.
God in heaven won't mind if you do or don't.
No you won't go to hell.
But your conscience will feel great if you do.
***THESE ARE JUST A FEW PROBLEMS THAT I HAVE WITH THIS BULLETIN. UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T HAVE TIME TO GO THROUGH AND PICK APART THE ENTIRE THING....JUST KNOW THAT YOU CANNOT BELIEVE WHAT YOU READ TO BE TRUTH JUST BECAUSE THEY USE WORDS THAT SOUND SCIENTIFIC. GO, LEARN, FIND TRUTH FOR YOURSELF. OPEN A BOOK. PLEASE STOP LISTENING TO NONSENSE.
Nov. 13, 2007 at 11:39 AM
Thank you!!!
Nov. 13, 2007 at 11:45 AM
Does 1 million dollars exist? Yes you say? Have you personally ever seen it? what no? So how do you know it exists? YOU yourself have never held a million dollars.....God is the same. I see his works all over...I have seen miracles. I may have never seen my God but I have faith that he is there...i know he is....I'm not cutting down anyone who doens't believe in God...that's your deal...not mine....just voicing my opinion.
Nov. 13, 2007 at 11:46 AM
and for the record, i never said it was a true story. I simply read it, liked it and posted.
Nov. 13, 2007 at 12:04 PM
Awesome post. Too bad, as usual, someone has to try to turn it into a debate. Their loss, missing the point. Thanks for sharing.
Nov. 13, 2007 at 3:25 PM
Loved the read thanks for posting it. And I didn't read the rebuttal in case anyone was wondering. :)
Nov. 13, 2007 at 5:59 PM
I loved the story! It is nice to see the presence of God amongst our children!
Nov. 14, 2007 at 1:16 AM
I did read the rebuttal, and I agree with it. Science, unlike religion, has to be tested, through observation or expieraments. With religion there is nothing that can be tested. Any scientific theory can be proven or disproven. Religion can't. That is why anyone can claim anything in the name of religion, good or bad.
Apr. 11, 2008 at 3:30 AM
GO, LEARN, FIND TRUTH FOR YOURSELF. OPEN A BOOK. PLEASE STOP LISTENING TO NONSENSE.
I do know the truth, I learned if for myself in a book called the Bible :)
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